
Violet and Jane
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This is perhaps the most important of the eight lineages, because it follows the central name of ‘Allen’.
ALLEN ORIGINS The Allen and Allan surnames derive from aluinn meaning fair or handsome. The Allan surname spelled with an ‘a’ is generally considered to be associated with Scottish clans. Spelled with an ‘e’ however, the surname is taken to be English in origin. |
This family specialised in large families with ‘broods’ of ten, thirteen and seven children, and there might well have been others that didn’t make it, for instance, Jane is aware of at least one other stillborn sibling of her father’s.
The full version of his name, Ivanhoe, is apparently based upon a horse that GF – Walter Thomas Allen successfully backed. After naming ten children your inspiration must be stretched for the eleventh. Ivan followed three sisters and so was separated from his brothers by nine years – yet his rugby kit was still all hand-me downs.
The family lost members in both world wars:
- U – William Charles Allen (1898-1917) killed in the trenches at Passchendaele
- 1C1R – Francis Ralph Allen (1910-1944) – lost aboard HMS Janus, off Anzio in the battle for Rome
- 1C1R – Dennis Roy Allen (1910-1944) an RAF navigator on a Wellington, shot down on a bombing raid into Germany
The first surprise is that there are no Irish connections on the paternal side. The family in fact derives from Cornwall, so Jane has Celtic roots, because the Allens were centred around St Columb Major in Cornwall (GGF7 to GGF13), or through the two Irish lines (Perrys and O’Sullivans).
The family had long believed that there was a connection to one of Regency Bath’s prominent trio, Ralph Allen 1893-1764 (the others were Beau Nash and John Wood). But, though he married twice, neither of Ralph’s wives had surviving issue. But I am delighted to state that this research has established that it was Ralph’s brother, GGF8 – Philip Allen (II) (1695-1765) who worked alongside Ralph – we discuss Ralph’s remarkable life under Philip II.
Their father was GGF9 – Reskymer Allen 1620-1690 and the origin of that first name is interesting.
Here is the pedigree chart – do follow the pages based on the head person through each generation:
![]() Jane Alison (Allen) Denton – 1948 – Bristol, England married 2 Nov 1968 Tyndale Baptist, Bristol | |
![]() F – Ivanhoe Wilfred Allen 1919 – 1996 – Bath, Somerset ![]() M – Violet Evelyn Eileen Stiles 1921-2012 – Chew Magna/Pensford, Somerset married 5 Sep 1942 at Bristol | Jane Alison Allen (Denton) |
![]() GF – Walter Thomas Allen 1877-1930 – Bath, Somerset ![]() GM – Elizabeth Amy Perry 1880-1967 – Bath, Somerset married 10 Mar 1898 Bath Registery Office, Bath | William Charles Allen II 1898-1917 Walter Reginald Allen 1902-1931 Leonard Alfred Allen 1903-1939 Percy Douglas Allen 1906-1964 Reginald Allen 1908-1975 Dennis Roy Allen 1910-1980 Dorothy Gertrude Mary Allen (Iles) 1913-2005 Phyllis Emily Allen (Eades) 1915-2009 Margaret Ruby Allen (Macfarlane) 1917-1994 F – Ivanhoe Wilfred Allen 1919-1996 |
![]() GGF1 – Wiliam Charles Allen I 1851-1935 – 36 Kingsmead Street, Bath, Somerset ![]() GGM1 – Rebecca Culliford 1851-1918 – Walcot, Bath, Somerset married 21 May 1871, Parish of Widcombe, Bath | Ada Louise Allen (Hales) 1871- William Charles Allen II 1874-1922 GF – Walter Thomas Allen 1877-1930 Henry F Allen 1879-1961 Dennis Allen 1879- Alfred A Allen 1880-1967 Rebecca Allen 1882- Reginald Herbert ‘Bertie’ Allen 1884-1957 – his son was Dennis Roy Allen 1910-1944 Elizabeth Maggie Allen (Piles) 1886-1961 Caroline Louisa Allen (Power) 1888- Frank Allen 1889- Elsie Ellen Allen (Humphries) 1890-1992 Kate Allen (Millar) 1892-1977 |
GGF2 – Thomas Allen 1828-1900 – Bath, Somerset GGM2 – Caroline Baker 1830-1908 – Bath, Somerset married 16 Jan 1848 | GGF1 – William Charles Allen I 1851-1935 Mary Jane Allen (Daniell) 1860- Henry Allen 1862- James Allen 1863- James Allen 1868- Louisa M Allen 1871- Thomas Allen 1874-1954 |
GGF3 – Charles Allen 1806-1866 – St Swithins, Bath, Somerset GGM3 – Jane Gibbons, 1802-1846 – St Swithins, Bath, Somerset married April 1839, Bath, Somerset | GGF2 – Thomas Allen 1828-1900 Charles Allen 1832- Jane Allen 1836- |
GGF4 – Daniel Allen 1784-1864 – Bath, Somerset GGM4 – Elizabeth ‘Betty’ Barten 1781- – Bath, Somerset marriage 22 Dec 1804, Weston, Bath, Somerset | GGF3 – Charles Allen 1806-1866 Mary Ann Allen 1807-1868 Francis Allen 1811- Henry Allen 1820-1900 Joseph Allen 1827-1886 |
GGF5 – George Edward Allen 1766-1850 – Bath, Somerset GGM5 – Anne Jones 1757-1792 – Bathampton, Somerset married 4 Apr 1784, Walcot, Bath | GGF4 – Daniel Allen 1784-1864 see also Ralph Shuttleworth Allen and links to Cunard family |
GGF6 – Philip Allen (III) 1736-1785 – Somerset? see more on postal service GGM6 – Sarah Maria Carteret 1739-1819 – Kensington, Middlesex see The Carterets | Philip Allen (IV) 1764-1765 GGF5 – George Edward Allen 1766-1850 Matilda Dorothea Allen 1767-1839 Ralph Anthony Allen 1769-1813 James Carteret Allen 1771-1791 Mariana Allen 1772-1853 Henry Edmund Allen 1775-1829 Philip Allen (V) 1778-1781 Maria Janetta Allen 1780-1866 |
GGF7 – Philip Allen (II) 1695-1765 – St Columb Major, Cornwall GGM7 – Jane Bennett 1703-1767 – Widcombe, Somerset married 22 Feb 1731, Claverton, Somerset, | Mary Allen (Lady Maude) 1732-1775 Ralph Allen (II) 1734-1777 GGF6 – Philip Allen (III) 1736-1785 George Edward Allen 1742 |
GGF8 – Philip Allen (I) 1667-1728 – St Columb Major Cornwall GGM8 – Mary Elliott 1665- – St Austell, Cornwall | ![]() GGU Ralph Allen 1693-1765 GGF7 – Philip Allen (II) 1695-1765 Gertrude Allen (Elliott) 1697-1789 Reskymer Allen 1700-1715 Elizabeth Allen (Tucker) 1702-1731 |
GGF9 – Reskymer Allen 1620-1690 – St Columb Major Cornwall GGM9 – Gertrude Keate 1639- – St Columb Major Cornwall married 8 Apr 1665, Cubert, Cornwall | Charles Allen 1660- Ralph Allen 1665-1672 GGF8 – Philip Allen (I) 1667-1728 Reskymer Allen 1669- Matilda Allen 2 Aug 1672- 4 Aug 1672 Gertrude Allen 1673 Ralph Allen 1678 |
GGF10 – Thomas (William?) Allen 1596- – Cornwall GGM10 – Philippa Calway 1600- – Cornwall married 24 Sep 1620, Truro, Cornwall | GGF9 – Reskymer Allen 1620-1690 Robert Allen 1620- Joan Allen 1621- Margaret Allen 1623- John Allen 1628- |
GGF11 – John Allen II 1570- – St Columb Major Cornwall GGM11 – Johanne Truscott 1570- – married Nov 1594, St Columb Major, Cornwall GGM11 – Nary Nuttle 1565- married | GGF10 – Thomas (William?) Allen 1596- Agnes Allen 1600- ___ John Allen 1606– |
GGF12 – Jefferie Allen 1533- – St Columb Major Cornwall GGM12 – Johanne Tregoyne 1537-1597 – married 1557 | Johane Allen 1560-1572 Thomas Allen 1567-1633 GGF11 – John Allen II 1570- Richard Allen Chr 1572- Robert Allen Chr 1575- Ursula Allen Chr 1578- |
GGF13 John Allen I Before1520 | GGF12 – Jefferie Allen 1533- Margaret Allen 1547- |
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